(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[8.00]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Round 3 Board 3]PW[Juyong Koh]PB[Jie Li]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2009-08-04]EV[North American Ing Masters (NAIM)]RO[3]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Huck Bennett]RE[W+1.00]
;B[pd]
;W[dd]
;B[qp]
;W[dp]
;B[oq]
;W[qj]
;B[qh]
;W[qm]
;B[fc]
;W[df]
;B[db]
;W[cc]
;B[ic]
;W[qc]
;B[pc]
;W[qd]
;B[qf]
;W[rf]
;B[rg]
;W[pe]
;B[qe]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]C[Shukai [1d\]: this looks kinda funny
]
;W[qb]
;B[oe]
;W[oc]C[USGO3 [-\]: Both players are extremely strong fighters and play creatively - this should be a great game!
]
;B[od]
;W[nc]C[Shukai [1d\]: have they ever played each other before?
]
;B[re]C[norg [3k\]: Jie Li is stronger
DaedDragon [1k\]: never seen r14 before
Shukai [1d\]: L17?
]
;W[lc]
;B[fq]
;W[cn]
;B[dr]
;W[cq]C[masterubik [1k\]: sorry but koh is very srtong too
masterubik [1k\]: but that true that Jie Li is one of the best in usa
]
;B[ip]C[Damaging [16k\]: Why isn't he pro then?
Damaging [16k\]: or is that a stupid question?
]
;W[dj]C[Shukai [1d\]: its kind of stupid =)
masterubik [1k\]: He don't like go ennof ... he have an other job
Shukai [1d\]: he just never bothered with test
masterubik [1k\]: yep
huggy [3k\]: maybe only Li can tell you why
masterubik [1k\]: true too
]
;B[fo]C[masterubik [1k\]: Lie won the tournamet over all pro last year
USGO3 [-\]: Mr. Koh is dressed in a sharp gray suit for the occasion, while Mr. Li is casually wearing flip flops.
norg [3k\]: I thought Feng Yun won last year...?
Shukai [1d\]: b lacks some points here imo
Damaging [16k\]: Is there a link to this?
remsleep [10k\]: its half moyo game half territory game...
Shukai [1d\]: white wants to do something to bottom
Shukai [1d\]: but he wondering how top right affects that
Shukai [1d\]: and his own white group on right
masterubik [1k\]: yep
USGO3 [-\]: Jie Li has 79 minutes remaining while Juyong Koh has 75 minutes remaining.
Shukai [1d\]: imo white will still invade
Damaging [16k\]: USGO is this broadcasted or not?
]
;W[kq]C[remsleep [10k\]: he has to invade now or never, right?
remsleep [10k\]: ah. iguess so
masterubik [1k\]: :0
masterubik [1k\]: cool
Shukai [1d\]: i guess here we see b's skill
Shukai [1d\]: or lack of =)
]
;B[jr]C[masterubik [1k\]: humm
masterubik [1k\]: n3?
masterubik [1k\]: simplest mind
Shukai [1d\]: maybe white play top first?
]
;W[np]
;B[nq]C[norg [3k\]: b will want to do something with the left hand side...
YukiStone [2k\]: that was a profound comment
YukiStone [2k\]: how about what?
huggy [3k\]: lol
]
;W[lp]
;B[pn]C[huggy [3k\]: actually left side might be left alone for a while
remsleep [10k\]: N6
huggy [3k\]: invasion on left side will prob depend on the course of the rest of the game
]
;W[pm]C[niki [2k\]: for me b is still too low on the rest of the board to supoort jumping into the elft side
]
;B[om]C[remsleep [10k\]: N6
]
;W[qn]
;B[po]C[remsleep [10k\]: N6
]
;W[rp]
;B[rq]
;W[qo]
;B[pp]
;W[iq]C[masterubik [1k\]: not easy to go out whit 4
masterubik [1k\]: m4
]
;B[jq]
;W[jp]
;B[jo]
;W[kp]
;B[ir]
;W[io]
;B[hp]
;W[jn]C[Holmes [-\]: nice sequence
masterubik [1k\]: yep
masterubik [1k\]: but this si still not easy for him
remsleep [10k\]: the laddr looks off to me
]
;B[ho]
;W[in]
;B[ol]C[remsleep [10k\]: now for sure ;-)
masterubik [1k\]: p8 is very severe
USGO3 [-\]: Jie Li has 73 minutes remaining while Juyong Ko has 62 minutes remaining.
amkjo: w looks abead
]
;W[ri]C[amkjo: s11?
masterubik [1k\]: wep
masterubik [1k\]: shape here
remsleep [10k\]: but b can run out
amkjo: no good move jumping to the center
]
;B[cl]
;W[cj]
;B[el]C[masterubik [1k\]: c2 only move
Shukai [1d\]: is it?
masterubik [1k\]: ok
masterubik [1k\]: maybe b8
masterubik [1k\]: but i sti prefer c2
]
;W[cr]C[masterubik [1k\]: still
masterubik [1k\]: see?
Shukai [1d\]: mmm
Shukai [1d\]: can black take sente?
huggy [3k\]: looks like b did something on the left side
remsleep [10k\]: why not just run out K5?
Uberdude [5d?\]: l5 m6 
Uberdude [5d?\]: net
remsleep [10k\]: i c
Uberdude [5d?\]: i quite like w
Uberdude [5d?\]: b lower side is overconcentrated
Uberdude [5d?\]: a;; w groups strong
Uberdude [5d?\]: so how can b use his thickness
]
;B[bn]
;W[bo]
;B[dn]
;W[co]
;B[kn]C[Shukai [1d\]: b needs magic
Damaging [16k\]: b can do magic
IceWine [7k\]: impossible to kill that group
freddygo [5k\]: but black can make white struggle for it
Uberdude [5d?\]: haha i was going to say this to  the 10k about the net
Shukai [1d\]: middle seems too open to do much of anything mmm
Uberdude [5d?\]: it is about the only intersting thing to do on the board
freddygo [5k\]: uberdude, u watch 3 games at once, which is the most exciting, do you think?
]
;W[ko]C[ketchup [2k\]: this one most likely
ketchup [2k\]: and andy liu
Shukai [1d\]: which way to extend?
Shukai [1d\]: lol
]
;B[ln]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: i tihnk feng yun plays most intersting shapes
Uberdude [5d?\]: lots to learn there, new ideas
Socratizer [3k?\]: But I also think her game might be the safest one to bet on
]
;W[jl]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: k10 most likely
Uberdude [5d?\]: but where is profit?
remsleep [10k\]: why k10?
remsleep [10k\]: harass?
girly: hi
USGO3 [-\]: Jie Li has 64 minutes remaining, while Juyong Ko has 50 minutes remaining.
remsleep [10k\]: how about H8 to harass?
]
;B[jj]C[remsleep [10k\]: ooo Uber is good
remsleep [10k\]: w H8
Shukai [1d\]: how to run?
remsleep [10k\]: H8 planning for L9
Uberdude [5d?\]: if h8 w just k10
Uberdude [5d?\]: cap to attack
Uberdude [5d?\]: this way w has to run round k10 so b might build some thickness
Uberdude [5d?\]: maybe some potential in upper middle
remsleep [10k\]: how about G9? where would B cut?
]
;W[ij]C[remsleep [10k\]: ah
remsleep [10k\]: i can read crosscuts ;-)
remsleep [10k\]: oops cant
]
;B[ii]
;W[ik]
;B[hi]C[Shukai [1d\]: u know sometimes i wonder
Shukai [1d\]: if the only fights jie li does
Shukai [1d\]: are the ones where only he can't die
]
;W[ll]C[norg [3k\]: Jie Li can't die in general. He is too strong to die
masterubik [1k\]: lol
remsleep [10k\]: N7?
remsleep [10k\]: w captures if he ignores, right?
Shukai [1d\]: 3 ways for white to enter n12 area
]
;B[kk]
;W[kl]
;B[mm]C[remsleep [10k\]: N9!
]
;W[lj]
;B[ji]
;W[ml]
;B[pk]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: hmm this is odd
Uberdude [5d?\]: w already defended at s11
Uberdude [5d?\]: he aims s9 kill?
remsleep [10k\]: lean then harrass center more?
bsaltman [3k\]: whole w group no eyes
Uberdude [5d?\]: well, if b has no s11 then surethis leans
Uberdude [5d?\]: but this isn't a trivial sente
Shukai [1d\]: feels to me that b just wants small profits everywhere
Shukai [1d\]: maybe he intends to just take off s4 in sente
]
;W[ro]
;B[eh]C[remsleep [10k\]: lean, then lean, then harass center more
Shukai [1d\]: maybe oneday it will die =)
Uberdude [5d?\]: right shukai, s4 in sente would be nice
Uberdude [5d?\]: but this w is an endgame specialist i think
Uberdude [5d?\]: so he resists
Shukai [1d\]: yah he is
Shukai [1d\]: slim margin wins
Uberdude [5d?\]: and q9 ends up as a bad move now?
Uberdude [5d?\]: b played dame w got cash at s4
IceWine [7k\]: juyong is in good shape
remsleep [10k\]: isnt he keeping w from connecting out there?
Uberdude [5d?\]: h16 ?
Uberdude [5d?\]: yes remsleep q9 does help the attack on middle group
Uberdude [5d?\]: but equally it is not points in itself
Uberdude [5d?\]: it is a nicer attack if in doing so you gain a few points here and there
IceWine [7k\]: c12
Uberdude [5d?\]: or h16 to resist
IceWine [7k\]: h16 is not juyong style
norg [3k\]: c12?
USGO3 [-\]: Jie Li has 54 minutes remaining while Juyong Koh has 32 minutes remaining.
]
;W[dg]C[remsleep [10k\]: M12
IceWine [7k\]: D13 looks better than my C12
Shukai [1d\]: d13 is thick
Shukai [1d\]: aims at h16 area
IceWine [7k\]: difference between 7d and 7k
Shukai [1d\]: juyong not like following b's moves around
Shukai [1d\]: i guess
]
;B[mq]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: yes d13 good measns b f15 easier to break in
bsaltman [3k\]: b quietly threatening whole w k8 group while reaping profit
IceWine [7k\]: when can i beat uberdude
trout [4d\]: when you become 6d.
AroundOneD [2d\]: g7?
Damaging [16k\]: g8 looks nicer
Shukai [1d\]: o4 might be too big to give up
Damaging [16k\]: also true
AroundOneD [2d\]: g7 is sente 
trout [4d\]: w n5 will connect o5. 
trout [4d\]: o4
Uberdude [5d?\]: bsaltman, where is b profit?
IceWine [7k\]: Q14
IceWine [7k\]: works
IceWine [7k\]: ?
Uberdude [5d?\]: no
Uberdude [5d?\]: et
Uberdude [5d?\]: net
]
;W[pj]
;B[oj]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: e6 can follow g7
]
;W[nj]C[remsleep [10k\]: P11 
]
;B[oi]C[remsleep [10k\]: i rule!
Shukai [1d\]: grats
AroundOneD [2d\]: ctr w should be ok since b has its own problems.
remsleep [10k\]: w N12
]
;W[gk]
;B[fj]
;W[fl]C[SColbert [3d\]: not hard to make life
bsaltman [3k\]: g7
USGO3 [-\]: Jie Li is thinking very hard about this move.
USGO3 [-\]: He has 43 minutes remaining, while Juyong Koh has 23 minutes remaining.
]
;B[ek]
;W[gm]C[Shukai [1d\]: still not 100 percent alive right?
bsaltman [3k\]: h8?
KoCrazy [1k?\]: who is leading
]
;B[fe]C[KoCrazy [1k?\]: g16
tianyake [4d\]: w looks not bad
KoCrazy [1k?\]: g16 not good 
Uberdude [5d?\]: k16
KoCrazy [1k?\]: j18 is possible
KoCrazy [1k?\]: Lee will play J18
]
;W[ni]
;B[cb]
;W[bb]C[norg [3k\]: Can b16 work?
KoCrazy [1k?\]: no
KoCrazy [1k?\]: B18 biger than L2?
remsleep [10k\]: o11 was to stop b turning there?
remsleep [10k\]: why so urgent? unless hes not really alive...
Shukai [1d\]: yes just like a virus
Shukai [1d\]: not really sure if it is alive
bsaltman [3k\]: d17-[b16-k14
TheCaptain [4d\]: juyong wins this by a little...
slinky [-\]: Cappy, as strong as you are, I don't think you can read THAT far ahead :^)
norg [3k\]: Juyong can't beat Jie Li
TheCaptain [4d\]: he just did.....
norg [3k\]: Only shusaku would be strong enough
slinky [-\]: Or tartrate.
]
;B[kb]C[slinky [-\]: Some believe tartrate is shusaku reborn
remsleep [10k\]: what country is tartrate?
Shukai [1d\]: b is almost 1 group
Shukai [1d\]: while white is 5!
]
;W[kc]
;B[jc]C[norg [3k\]: tartrate is only 8p though :P
USGO3 [-\]: Jie Li has 35 minutes remaining, while Juyong Koh has 16 minutes remaining
fivelover [3k\]: did thay start this game at 6?
fivelover [3k\]: almost 3 hrs has passed
Shukai [1d\]: shusaku was just 7p
]
;W[bk]C[USGO3 [-\]: 6:30 Eastern time
AroundOneD [2d\]: l2
fivelover [3k\]: 2hrs and 15 min. has passed,  thx
remsleep [10k\]: wait. tartrate is some mystery guy?
AroundOneD [2d\]: b is leading
Shukai [1d\]: L15
]
;B[nh]
;W[mo]C[runtt21 [-\]: remsleep its a long story
]
;B[nn]
;W[mh]
;B[mg]
;W[lh]C[huggy [3k\]: yeah, and it involves chuck norris and vietnbam and lots of other things
bsaltman [3k\]: l14?
remsleep [10k\]: K13 ka-ching
AroundOneD [2d\]: t4
]
;B[mc]C[remsleep [10k\]: my head hurts
Shukai [1d\]: coo
Shukai [1d\]: the dosaku tesuji
Shukai [1d\]: except not as cool here
bsaltman [3k\]: who saw this coming/
remsleep [10k\]: ah.. ive seen that in a book
Shukai [1d\]: white prob read this
]
;W[nb]
;B[mb]C[USGO3 [-\]: White nodded his head as if annoyed when black played n17.
]
;W[nd]
;B[md]C[remsleep [10k\]: arent the two hanes obvious to pros?
]
;W[ne]
;B[of]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: n17 is nice
Shukai [1d\]: so like
Shukai [1d\]: did b just win?
bsaltman [3k\]: THINK SWO
AroundOneD [2d\]: n15
]
;W[me]
;B[le]
;W[lf]
;B[ke]C[remsleep [10k\]: k13
huggy [3k\]: probably
USGO3 [-\]: Juyong Koh is down to 10 minutes.
USGO3 [-\]: Jie Li still has just under half an hour.
]
;W[kf]C[bsaltman [3k\]: cut?
AroundOneD [2d\]: k15
]
;B[jf]
;W[jg]C[remsleep [10k\]: double
bsaltman [3k\]: j13
]
;B[if]
;W[sq]
;B[rr]
;W[ig]C[remsleep [10k\]: i think w is alive now ;-)
]
;B[hf]
;W[dc]
;B[eb]C[remsleep [10k\]: w has o13
bsaltman [3k\]: SE szays "JIGO" !
]
;W[kr]
;B[sb]
;W[ma]
;B[lb]
;W[rb]
;B[sc]C[remsleep [10k\]: w jump now?
AroundOneD [2d\]: b is winning
USGO3 [-\]: White now only has 5 minutes left.
AroundOneD [2d\]: e2
AroundOneD [2d\]: last chance
]
;W[ns]C[remsleep [10k\]: i rule!
bsaltman [3k\]: n14 
fivelover [3k\]: cappy?
fivelover [3k\]: is koh still ahead?
AroundOneD [2d\]: o2
]
;B[mf]C[bsaltman [3k\]: yesw!
]
;W[nf]C[bsaltman [3k\]: \\w dies
norg [3k\]: He can't kill, can he?
]
;B[ng]
;W[oa]C[Greyish [1d\]: gote...
]
;B[oh]C[KoCrazy [1k?\]: mis
]
;W[kh]C[SColbert [3d\]: w wins
SColbert [3d\]: way ahead
]
;B[ba]
;W[bc]C[remsleep [10k\]: b top is big
ketchup [2k\]: unless black has a tesuji for that left side
remsleep [10k\]: he'll push w around now
ketchup [2k\]: white has won..
bsaltman [3k\]: c8?
tianyake [4d\]: seems w leads a little
tianyake [4d\]: who is w?
KoCrazy [1k?\]: canadian
fivelover [3k\]: he is a marcian
AroundOneD [2d\]: o2
starrk [10k?\]: he plays as bliztsuck on kgs i think
fivelover [3k\]: y
fivelover [3k\]: or meatlover
remsleep [10k\]: start D12
KoCrazy [1k?\]: Blame Canada
fivelover [3k\]: he is from mars
fivelover [3k\]: b8  looks big
Shukai [1d\]: juyong is meatlover?
fivelover [3k\]: y
ketchup [2k\]: lol think so
Shukai [1d\]: meatlover was only like 7 dan KGS though
ketchup [2k\]: havent seen that account in a while
AroundOneD [2d\]: b8 fine
fivelover [3k\]: he does not eat meat anymore
ketchup [2k\]: kgs is not this type of play
ketchup [2k\]: KGS is laid back... tournament style is very different
fivelover [3k\]: when he was young he lived on meat
]
;B[eq]C[ChemBoy613 [1d\]: white is really strong
]
;W[bl]
;B[cm]C[ChemBoy613 [1d\]: beat up my wife :(
ketchup [2k\]: how does black expect to win here?
]
;W[bm]C[freddygo [5k\]: i thought jie li was stronger...
ketchup [2k\]: lol chemboy, you say that in a really bad way
ketchup [2k\]: jie li is interesting play, but white was too solid
]
;B[os]C[Shukai [1d\]: b just failed to use his thickness
Shukai [1d\]: from opening
Shukai [1d\]: like didn't get enough
]
;W[ms]C[Shukai [1d\]: still a good strategy given the komi though
AroundOneD [2d\]: o2
SColbert [3d\]: b way behind..
]
;B[sp]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: close
]
;W[qk]C[KoCrazy [1k?\]: b is weak
bsaltman [3k\]: c1
ketchup [2k\]: w+komi..
]
;B[sr]
;W[or]
;B[pr]C[SColbert [3d\]: i think more than that
]
;W[ps]C[remsleep [10k\]: if i go to the congress... maybe i can meet tartrate...
]
;B[qs]C[SColbert [3d\]: l1
Aphelion02 [9k\]: tartrate is korean
remsleep [10k\]: ah. not a mystery guy
]
;W[hr]
;B[hq]
;W[is]C[SColbert [3d\]: j1
]
;B[js]C[SColbert [3d\]: this is textbook tesuji
]
;W[ks]
;B[hs]C[SColbert [3d\]: to get sente
USGO3 [-\]: White only has one minute left.
]
(;W[gg])
(;W[hg]C[fivelover [3k\]: B?
Aphelion02 [9k\]: wait, is this real time?
xDragon [15k\]: pretty much
fivelover [3k\]: B time?
]
;B[gg]
;W[gh]C[USGO3 [-\]: Black has just under 14 minutes left.
remsleep [10k\]: hmmmm
KoCrazy [1k?\]: resign?
Aphelion02 [9k\]: b cannot cut?
AroundOneD [2d\]: b's o12 should be l2
remsleep [10k\]: he'll get isolated
ketchup [2k\]: aiming for e6?
fivelover [3k\]: ohh time pressure for Koh
]
;B[fg]C[Aphelion02 [9k\]: yea but it seems b can win cap race
Aphelion02 [9k\]: as fast as i can read
]
;W[hh]C[Aphelion02 [9k\]: *best
AroundOneD [2d\]: o12 got nothing
norg [3k\]: b can win anything
norg [3k\]: He is Jie Li
]
;B[gj]C[fivelover [3k\]: u crazy?
ketchup [2k\]: nothing winning this
ketchup [2k\]: not*
Aphelion02 [9k\]: whats the count now?
fivelover [3k\]: what  so great about Jie?
KoCrazy [1k?\]: c1
ketchup [2k\]: he had a good game yesterday, but this one not so much
USGO3 [-\]: White is now in byo-yomi.
norg [3k\]: This is just not going his way until something dies
]
;W[no]C[norg [3k\]: Has Juyong Koh won both his other games?
KoCrazy [1k?\]: y
remsleep [10k\]: was is the threat?
KillerMonk [4d\]: Jie Li is quite strong. He has beaten several professional players. Even a 9p. However, my guess is he might be a bit rusty lately 
]
;B[dh]
;W[ch]
;B[ee]
;W[de]C[remsleep [10k\]: i dont see the o5 threat
Levvo [7k\]: n4 maybe?
xedover [5k?\]: until recently, he was probably considered the strongest US player
]
;B[cs]
;W[bs]
;B[ds]
;W[dq]
;B[er]
;W[br]C[KillerMonk [4d\]: myung wan Kim is probably the strongest now
norg [3k\]: By his own reckoning, he has lost strength since he started studying law
trout [4d\]: e7
norg [3k\]: The way he's been playing recently, it looks like Andy Liu is on his way up...
Socratizer [3k?\]: I think Feng Yun was strongest before. 
]
;B[so]
;W[sn]
;B[sq]C[ketchup [2k\]: feng yun still strongest
]
;W[pl]C[KoCrazy [1k?\]: By his own reckoning, he has lost strength since he got a girlfiend
ketchup [2k\]: won naim last year
ketchup [2k\]: looking good to win this year too
]
;B[sm]C[norg [3k\]: Feng Yun won last year ;)
Aphelion02 [9k\]: huh
]
;W[rn]C[Aphelion02 [9k\]: b trying to kill?
Socratizer [3k?\]: It's a shame she and Myungwan aren't competing in the same tournaments
Aphelion02 [9k\]: or timesuji?
AroundOneD [2d\]: on board, b is leading
]
;B[nk]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: what is komi?
Aphelion02 [9k\]: 8
Aphelion02 [9k\]: well, 7.5
Aphelion02 [9k\]: since b wins ties
norg [3k\]: In a game like this, that's going to make a difference
AroundOneD [2d\]: 6.5 or .5
]
;W[rl]C[USGO3 [-\]: Aphelion is right
remsleep [10k\]: shove shove shove
KillerMonk [4d\]: danger danger ...
remsleep [10k\]: w center will surround about 4 pts
]
;B[lr]
;W[ls]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: b can not afford the komi
fivelover [3k\]: s8  very painfull
]
;B[ki]C[Aphelion02 [9k\]: mm
Aphelion02 [9k\]: why doesn't b play n10 instead
]
;W[li]C[USGO3 [-\]: Jie Li has about 7:30 left
norg [3k\]: SE is loving this!
KoCrazy [1k?\]: W has o7
remsleep [10k\]: who SE?
Toichi [-\]: B+89
Levvo [7k\]: :P
Aphelion02 [9k\]: actually, ca b kill?
Aphelion02 [9k\]: *can
ideahead [3d\]: i think it's alive
Aphelion02 [9k\]: oh nvm
Aphelion02 [9k\]: cuz of h8?
Hylebos [3k\]: Lots going on in this game.
SColbert [3d\]: may not be alive
KillerMonk [4d\]: i don't think he can kill 
Levvo [7k\]: Love this yose =)
Levvo [7k\]: so intence ;D ..
AroundOneD [2d\]: h6
KillerMonk [4d\]: but he can reduce whte to minimum eyes 
remsleep [10k\]: but he can compress to nothing
albundy [2k\]: m9 
ideahead [3d\]: because of o8 sente
Aphelion02 [9k\]: yea, i saw o8
Aphelion02 [9k\]: butthere's 2 eyes in h8 region?
remsleep [10k\]: its really just a jeep
TheCaptain [4d\]: Juyong is deadly on yose.....
USGO3 [-\]: Black is down to 5 minutes.
Aphelion02 [9k\]: one day i hope to play half as good
ikea [2d\]: taking n11 eye is gote
AroundOneD [2d\]: keep sente
Toichi [-\]: Black is down to 4 minutes.
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;B[hj]C[Godsend [3k\]: what is white at (time)
norg [3k\]: How's w doing for time?
remsleep [10k\]: hes going to shove everywhere
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;W[hk]C[fivelover [3k\]: koh can play  in 10 sec
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;B[fn]
;W[fm]C[Shira [17k?\]: W was in byo-yomi back on move 177
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;B[em]C[Aphelion02 [9k\]: whats byoyomi time?
norg [3k\]: 1 minute, isn't it?
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;W[nl]C[Aphelion02 [9k\]: sry, i just read rules
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;B[mn]C[norg [3k\]: Though I don't know how many periods...
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;W[ok]C[Levvo [7k\]: is there a live streaming somewhere?
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;B[la]
;W[na]
;B[pk]C[fivelover [3k\]: wow
fivelover [3k\]: koh  is tight
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;W[fh]
;B[eg]
;W[ok]
;B[mp]
;W[lo]
;B[pk]C[remsleep [10k\]: i like this ship. its exciting.
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;W[mj]
;B[ok]C[Toph [3k?\]: wow, we have really a white dragon here
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;W[ca]
;B[da]C[Levvo [7k\]: uhmm
Toph [3k?\]: i suppose bH7 can kill it...
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;W[gn]C[Shukai [1d\]: it has two eyes now
Toph [3k?\]: ooh, no
Aphelion02 [9k\]: lol
Toph [3k?\]: yep, n10...
Shukai [1d\]: so its a dragon with glasses
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;B[rh]C[USGO3 [-\]: Black has 2:43 remaining.
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;W[ed]
;B[fd]C[norg [3k\]: SE has now swung in Jie Li's favour
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;W[ep]C[Toph [3k?\]: strange, b should have play n10 way ago, because it was a cut threat
norg [3k\]: Having had a flirt with w earlier
Aphelion02 [9k\]: yea
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;B[qi]
;W[rj]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: close game
Aphelion02 [9k\]: i don't understand why b diddn't play n10 n9 sequence
remsleep [10k\]: will these be commented anywhere?
AroundOneD [2d\]: with komi
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;B[hn]
;W[hm]
;B[os]C[norg [3k\]: n10 was gote
MrShintou [5d\]: wow close game :D
Toph [3k?\]: mhh, no, n10 was sente
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;W[nr]C[Aphelion02 [9k\]: your saying w will just give up those 2 stones?
Toph [3k?\]: (for black)
norg [3k\]: Ah yes
ketchup [2k\]: still must be w + komi
norg [3k\]: In hindsight, it was :P
Aphelion02 [9k\]: that seems kinda costly in this kind of yose
Defeated [2d?\]: w seems confident
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;B[di]C[ideahead [3d\]: it was alive
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;W[ci]C[czajan [1d\]: w+1.5?
Aphelion02 [9k\]: isn't f4 kinda urgent
norg [3k\]: Given that komi is integer, w would be hard pressed to win by 1.5...
AroundOneD [2d\]: e5
ketchup [2k\]: komi is 8 anyways
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;B[km]C[USGO3 [-\]: Black has just under a minute left.
Aphelion02 [9k\]: w e10?
AroundOneD [2d\]: I thought it's 7.5
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;W[ej]C[czajan [1d\]: how much is komi?
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;B[fk]C[smoke [7k\]: 8
Aphelion02 [9k\]: f4?
Levvo [7k\]: 7,5
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;W[eo]
;B[en]C[czajan [1d\]: so big
norg [3k\]: It says 8 in the rules
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;W[fp]
;B[go]C[Aphelion02 [9k\]: ah
smoke [7k\]: nz rules
DeadTired [2d\]: 7.5 for practical purposes: it is technically 8, but b wins if it's a tie
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;W[jm]C[Shira [17k?\]: So B+0 is a possibility?
norg [3k\]: It's going to be close
xedover [5k?\]: no
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;B[ra]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: k7 sente for b
DeadTired [2d\]: good one Shira
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;W[qa]C[Aphelion02 [9k\]: yea b+0 is possible
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;B[si]
;W[sj]C[xedover [5k?\]: no
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;B[sh]C[nolimitman [7d\]: white ahead.
ygz5001 [8k\]: b +0.5
xedover [5k?\]: 361 points avail -- no tie
sameasyou [2d\]: the 7d has spoken :)
DrH0use [2d\]: andy liu won?
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;W[op]C[Levvo [7k\]: m13 1 point sente? O.o
Shira [17k?\]: Well, that's the practical effect of black winning in a tie, isn't it? Or am I just thinking way too much with too little caffeine?
rjm [5k\]: yeah andy won
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;B[mr]C[DrH0use [2d\]: :))))
DrH0use [2d\]: bbw the best
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;W[dk]
;B[dl]C[Toph [3k?\]: i feel black is losing some points in this yose
rjm [5k\]: yeah :)
DeadTired [2d\]: no, you are right shira. xedover is also right --- it is hard for this to happen without seki
ketchup [2k\]: bah getting odd counts
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;W[pi]C[remsleep [10k\]: i predicted 4 pts in w center and its 5....
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;B[ph]
;W[ef]
;B[ff]C[Levvo [7k\]: He's obviously better then you then remsleep ;P
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;W[gp]
;B[gq]C[USGO3 [-\]: Black is in byo-yomi now.
Aphelion02 [9k\]: score estimate, jigo!
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;W[sa]
;B[rd]
;W[rc]
;B[ra]
;W[sd]
;B[se]
;W[sa]C[norg [3k\]: = :D
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;B[sd]
;W[ec]
;B[ab]C[fivelover [3k\]: w  wins 4.5
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;W[ac]
;B[fb]
;W[aa]C[huong8008 [2k\]: jigo
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;B[ca]C[huong8008 [2k\]: ?
ketchup [2k\]: hmm
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;W[ra]C[fivelover [3k\]: 3.5
ketchup [2k\]: maybe black might win..
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;B[ps]C[freddygo [5k\]: what is komi?
captnapalm [1d\]: is a18 correct?
ideahead [3d\]: w win
norg [3k\]: It's looking like w wins :(
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;W[ab]C[TheCaptain [4d\]: like i said...Juyong by a little
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;B[lg]
;W[kg]C[oogooggo: f4 cost black the game
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;B[oo]
;W[nm]C[USGO3 [-\]: Now just dame.
Defeated [2d?\]: juyong such solid style..love it
fivelover [3k\]: cappy is right
USGO3 [-\]: That was the end of the game.
sweety [-\]: Captain the best!
norg [3k\]: w+3
coolbabe [5d\]: b 72
Levvo [7k\]: nice yose =)
fivelover [3k\]: hey sweety
Goemon [?\]: no The Captain is the best :P
startgo1 [3k\]: result?
sweety [-\]: that was Java
sameasyou [2d\]: it seems Lee Sedol is the best....Captain way behind
xedover [5k?\]: always blaming Java
sweety [-\]: >.>;
Damaging [16k\]: why white not play m7 ?
Shira [17k?\]: Black would respond with P6
Aphelion02 [9k\]: it doesn't matter
coolbabe [5d\]: b win a lot
Aphelion02 [9k\]: p6 not a point
wintogo [7d\]: b won by 1.5?
norg [3k\]: It's neutral
norg [3k\]: w won by 3
Damaging [16k\]: Ow ok 
wintogo [7d\]: no
wintogo [7d\]: white
wintogo [7d\]: not black
coolbabe [5d\]: b 62
Defeated [2d?\]: ing rules
YeknomGib [4k\]: Ing rules rule
Shira [17k?\]: How can black win by 1.5 when komi is 8? Do dan-level players have some sort of magic half-point move? >_>
coolbabe [5d\]: w 55
francium87 [1k\]: 8 komi?
USGO3 [-\]: White wins by 1 point.
Aphelion02 [9k\]: OUCH
wintogo [7d\]: white 0.5 point 
sameasyou [2d\]: painful
WonderGoma [4k\]: no
sams1883 [2d\]: b wins
Defeated [2d?\]: a kgs .5 hehe
norg [3k\]: I bet Jie Li is kicking himself
Aphelion02 [9k\]: i thought e4 was urgent :(
hoogly [8k\]: b .5 pt
WonderGoma [4k\]: W + 1
fairgo1 [1k\]: who won?
norg [3k\]: 1 more point and he'd have won...
WonderGoma [4k\]: this is ING rules
sams1883 [2d\]: b
fairgo1 [1k\]: O_O
wintogo [7d\]: oh i see
coolbabe [5d\]: b 61
wintogo [7d\]: ing rule
fairgo1 [1k\]: b won?
AroundOneD [2d\]: b vs w: 54 vs 46+komi.
wintogo [7d\]: white won
WonderGoma [4k\]: ING rules = komi 8
fairgo1 [1k\]: oh ok
ketchup [2k\]: all rule sets = white win
coolbabe [5d\]: b 62
Aphelion02 [9k\]: ing rules same as chinese rules practically right
hoogly [8k\]: big komi
xedover [5k?\]: I count w+1
ketchup [2k\]: yes
WonderGoma [4k\]: is not big Komi is just fair
wintogo [7d\]: white had a mistake ending game that lost 1 point
AroundOneD [2d\]: I may miss some stones for b
Shira [17k?\]: Not fair if black was banking on komi being only 6.5. :)
ketchup [2k\]: when they play game, they agree to rules
fairgo1 [1k\]: only andy, feng yun, mingjiu, and juyong ko remain undefeated now :)
ketchup [2k\]: and knowing the rules
Damaging [16k\]: If I count it with offline mode it says 178 - 178
coolbabe [5d\]: w 54
ketchup [2k\]: coolbabe, there is komi
WonderGoma [4k\]: Shira, read the different rule sets and scoring in SL
Toichi [-\]: who won?
ketchup [2k\]: 7.5 or 8 or something
fairgo1 [1k\]: koh*
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